Is marriage solely one man & one woman?

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  1. The bible says yes. Yet, we can find in OT times of ppl having multiple wives. But in today's economy it is one man and one woman.
     
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    Great topic, truly.

    I can honestly say I've never really taken the time to look into this. Although your post provoked a quick look while I wait for church to start.

    I found (this) article that I found kind of interesting. The mormons obviously still follow this, but then again the mormons have taken our scriptures and twisted them in the wildest of ways.

    I'm eager to see what others have to say about this. Great post.
     
  3. Although I agree, can you defend it with Scripture?
     
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    This is a good topic!
    I think marriage is for a man and a women. I have nothing against people being in same sex relationships; I also believe that civil partnerships are a good concept, however I don't think they should be 'married'. Marriage has always been a sacred bond between a man and a women and I think this is the way it should stay.
     
  5. God disagrees with you.

    And civil partnerships are a sin, too. You're on an unsustainable path here.
     
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    I would be interested in hearing a more detailed explanation of how you would fit a civil partnership within a biblical worldview. No sarcasm at all, an honest inquiry. Would this civil same sex relationship include sex?
     
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    An interesting suggestion I have seen is that (moral) laws are there to guide us into loving actions. We need to look behind the actual command to see what it's purpose is, the values it is protecting. There may be exception to a law where the exception better protects the fundamental value.

    For example God says "Do not kill". A clear prohibition, yet we recognise circumstances where killing may be necessary. One fundamental purpose behind marriage is the procreation & nurture of children. Polygamy serves this purpose and seems to have been acceptable to God in OT times, perhaps to populate the earth. Polyandry and same sex relationships do not, and do not ever seem to have been acceptable to God.

    When did polygamy cease to be acceptable to God?
    Is it just a social convention?
    Or is it that it is no longer needed now the earth is populated and the rights and dignity of women have become more important?

    I don't have answers but just thought I would lob out the thoughts.
     
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    YES

    Jesus and Paul said:

    Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

    Can two wives be one flesh with one man? Wife is singular in these passages.

    1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

    It is clear for a bishop.

    1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

    It is clear for a Deacon.

    1 Timothy 5:9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man.

    It is clear for a believing widow.

    Titus 1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

    6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

    It is clear for elders.

    I find no exceptions for anyone else in the New Testament.
     
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    Yes, in the New Covenant polygamy and same-sex marriage is prohibited. In the Old Covenant, before Jesus made all things new, polygamy seems to have been accepted. This is not a contradiction or even an issue.

    Homosexuality has never been accepted and was prohibited in both Covenants.
     
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  10. Agreed, (sort of) but 'acceptable' is far different from 'approved' - God made provision for divorce in the Mosaic covenant (Deut 22 & 24) yet that does not mean God approved of it, see Mal 2:16.

    We have to be careful with the Bible's examples on Polygamy - in scripture we have a few notable examples of polygamous relationships and there prominence can lead us to believe it was common practice - but is that really the case?

    Also, we see with those prominent examples huge issues within those families - namely rivalry between the wives and the children - consider;

    1) Sarah's attitude towards Hagar and Ishmael's attitude towards Isaac (Gen 21)
    2) The rivalry between Leah and Rachel (Gen 30)
    3) The hatred of Penninah for Hannah (1 Sam 1:6)
    4) Think of the problems caused in David's family (2 Kings)

    There isn't a single example of polygamous marriages that worked well in scripture - also, as you read through the bible there are far more examples of marriages that were monogamous - it seems to me that the tone of scripture in the Old Testament is clearly against polygamy as a normal practice and that actually the only time it commends it is as an act of social care for the widow within the family.

    Furthermore God speaks of his relationship with his people in terms of a marriage in both testaments and in Eph 5 Paul is clear that from creation God intended marriage to picture the relationship between Christ and his people - in that context we have frequent references to the people's 'adultery' in going after other God's - normally this was not the forsaking of God, but the addition of Baal to their worship of God - this second 'marriage' is viewed by God as unfaithfulness (Ezek 16 is very important passage on this topic)

    In summary then I would suggest Polygamy was accepted rather then acceptable, it was by means the norm in Israel and it seems to always introduce problems into the family life and clearly from Gen 1 it was not the pattern God established in creation.

    God designed marriage to be between one man and one women, he designed it this way to picture the relationship between him and his people.
     
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