How can God desire all to be saved yet make only few to be saved?

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    All men are unable to repent but it was not God who made them as such. It was Adam who made all men unable to repent at the fall.

    God did not make it impossible for some to repent, Adam did that for all of us.

    Jesus' Atonement rendered all men savable but the cross is not the only instrumentation in salvation. Faith is required and granted by divine enabling of a chosen portion from the mass of humanity that God decided to save.

    Just because God saved us and didn't save all doesnot make God unjust in any way shape or form. God preplanned the salvation of everyone who is going to be saved. Those who will not be saved were simply passed over. From a created being's perspective based in human emotions those whom God passed over are unwanted but we do not know good and evil as God knows it nor did Satan's lie produce an ability to understand good and evil as God does, we do not know it and the questions concerning what is or is not fair in the election by God is foolish and can not be understood from our vantage point.

    We must allow the scriptures to say what it says whether it makes sense to us or not. It doesn't matter what our feelings are but what matters is what is written. IMO.
     
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    Pardon me if I'm repeating what's been said, but my understanding is that the pronoun "all" is not always literal. In that time, salvation was considered to only be for the Jews. So when it started being said that God wants ALL to be saved, it wasn't literally meaning that every single human should be saved. This would contradict a few scriptures off the top of my head. Some vessels for mercy. Some for wrath. Pharaoh. If God wanted ALL to be saved, why not save Pharaoh too? But instead He hardened Pharaoh's heart.

    So again, "all" doesn't necessarily mean ALL. It means people from ALL over the world, not just Jews.
     
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    Welcome DMW,
    You are quite correct....the all refers to all manner of men, old young, rich poor, jew ,gentile.
    Originally God singled out one nation...Israel where salvation would be found, but now it has gone worldwide...jew or gentile, one new man In Christ.
     
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    God has no need to change or go to plan B. He has the prophets speak to us in language we can readily understand.
     

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