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    In this thread we will expose the evil workings of men with small minds who have chosen to censor truth by removing all Calvinists and the error that spews forth is quite instructive.
    We invite any of those cowardly persons here in an open uncensored way to defend there false postings.
    You will see the error put forth and have a chance to offer help to these misguided persons.
     
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    PB minimum starts a thread on the Great Commission. ...10 posts in....Aristarkos denies there are gentile churches and denies the need for water baptism...: unamused:: unamused:: unamused:
    No one seems to know how to answer his misguided ideas.
    I will post the link tommorow when I get on my laptop.
     
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    Are you still there or are you having a coffee break?
     
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    If it's the one I know they lump Catholics in with Islam, SDA,, JW and LDS.
     
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    Lol.
    I was banned for posting a video from the demonic "Toronto blessing"..where people were crawling on hands and knees,barking like dogs and howling like animals.
    Changed by Him, slug1, believe it was the Spirit of God.
    So they removed the videos.....So I answered you can remove and censor whatever you want but I know you saw it.....because changed by him said I should not speak about the spirit making people bark like dogs.
    So the cowardly Shepherdsword banned me saying I spoke against a moderators action...lol...and people like me do not belong on that forum
     
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    #6 Anthony D'Arienzo is a Verified MemberAnthony D'Arienzo, Jul 15, 2017 at 2:05 PM
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    Yes...I hate censorship.
    If someone is using foul language, or spamming the board that is one thing, but there is a small group who have taken it over ,Arminian charismatics devoid of truth who can allow free discussion.
    I invite them to come here and answer on a forum that will not restrict answers.
     
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    Yeah....coffee break....where the ungodly moderators ask.....are you a hyper calvinist?
    You are not going to question us are you?: unamused:
    They need a coffee enema over there:poop:
     
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    I will cut and paste the threads when I get to my laptop,not sure how to do it on the phone.
     
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    #9 Anthony D'Arienzo is a Verified MemberAnthony D'Arienzo, Jul 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM
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    Thanks.
    Hi David. You will get a lot of anti-gifts sentiment here, but a Spirit filled church is the one you should continue with, as long as they are teaching the Word of God. And yes, the gift of tongues is for TODAY. I don't know if the one you are visiting is the right one for you, but I recommend that you look for a church that worships God, teaches the Word and believes in the operation of the gifts of the Spirit.

    This was posted by changed by him.
     
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    Neither their doctrine nor behaviorism says "Christian" IMHO.

    That would be one of the sites I've been banned from, BB and that one. Both for challenging false doctrine and bad heretical moderators.

    It appears that some tell others I've been banned before, as if that is something of which to be ashamed. as if it is some sort of "warning" to others.

    Seems to me some who feel that way perhaps really don't know too much about what being a Christian and "contending" really look like. Not that I'm some great Christian, but can say that nothing has caused me to compromise the truth of the Gospel.
     
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    #11 Anthony D'Arienzo is a Verified MemberAnthony D'Arienzo, Jul 16, 2017 at 12:48 PM
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    The Great Commission
    Thread: The Great Commission


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    1. Pbminimum
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      The Great Commission
      In Mathew 28 , verses 18-20 we read what is commonly referred to as "The Great Commission"

      "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying " All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing then in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit; teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you, and lo, I am with you always. even to the end of the age." Amen.

      I have some points to discuss and want your feedback.

      1. Was there a Great Commission ?
      2. If it exists, then who does it apply to ? Was it only an apostolic command ?
      3. If it applies to us , then what does that mean we are to do ?
      4. How does this apply to the church , if at all ?

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      Re: The Great Commission
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      1. Was there a Great Commission ?
      2. If it exists, then who does it apply to ? Was it only an apostolic command ?
      3. If it applies to us , then what does that mean we are to do ?
      4. How does this apply to the church , if at all ?
      Yes, there is a Great Commission which applies to the whole Church and to every Christian individually. It means that the Gospel must be disseminated

    3. keck553
      said:Jun 29th 2017 06:26 PM
      Re: The Great Commission
      Isaiah 52:7 .

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      Pbminimum
      said:Jun 30th 2017 12:26 PM
      How can we say we love our neighbor if we think God has already preordained them to hell ?

      How can we say we love our neighbor if we don't think they can be saved ?

      How can we say we love our neighbor if we never share Christ with them


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      Re: The Great Commission
      [​IMG] Originally Posted by Pbminimum [​IMG]
      In Mathew 28 , verses 18-20 we read what is commonly referred to as "The Great Commission"

      "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying " All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing then in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit; teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you, and lo, I am with you always. even to the end of the age." Amen.

      I have some points to discuss and want your feedback.

      1. Was there a Great Commission ?
      2. If it exists, then who does it apply to ? Was it only an apostolic command ?
      3. If it applies to us , then what does that mean we are to do ?
      4. How does this apply to the church , if at all ?


      1. Absolutely, it's printed in black and white in Scripture.

      2. The twelve and Israel, to be executed in the aion to come, as we can read in 1 Peter 2:9 « But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: » (Please note to whom this letter is appointed: « Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered (those in diaspora) throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. »)

      This is nothing new, in the O.T. we read the same message about Israel: « And ye [Israel] shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. »

      3. Obviously it doesn't apply to « us » meaning gentiles, there is not a single Scripture that says the gentile « church » has to convert the world to Christianity. That will be Israels job when the Lord returns and establishes that kingdom of priests. That doesn't mean individuals can't convert people or shouldn't when the occasion arises.

      4. Which church would that be? Christianity is divided into with each other competing « churches » that interpret Scriptures in their own way and all claim to be THE church.

      Then there is the issue of « baptism » anybody that is willing to investigate without prejudice when and who were and had to baptized with water can't continue to assurt that we should be water baptized. The real baptism is never mentioned.

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      said:Jun 30th 2017 03:43 PM
      Re: The Great Commission
      1. Absolutely, it's printed in black and white in Scripture.
      What about the " teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you" part ? This is discipleship at it's core, and was clearly meant to be carried on after the fact.

      2. The twelve and Israel, to be executed in the aion to come, as we can read in 1 Peter 2:9 « But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: » (Please note to whom this letter is appointed: « Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered (those in diaspora) throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. »)
      We are under a new Covenant now. Jesus spoke this to the Apostles entering the church age.
      This is nothing new, in the O.T. we read the same message about Israel: « And ye [Israel] shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. »
      see above.

      3. Obviously it doesn't apply to « us » meaning gentiles, there is not a single Scripture that says the gentile « church » has to convert the world to Christianity. That will be Israels job when the Lord returns and establishes that kingdom of priests. That doesn't mean individuals can't convert people or shouldn't when the occasion arises.
      Not obvious to me at all. In fact to the contrary.

      4. Which church would that be? Christianity is divided into with each other competing « churches » that interpret Scriptures in their own way and all claim to be THE church.

      Then there is the issue of « baptism » anybody that is willing to investigate without prejudice when and who were and had to baptized with water can't continue to assurt that we should be water baptized. The real baptism is never mentioned.
      The church of Jesus Christ that crosses denominational lines. Why even go here ?

      Do you think global missions are to be done individually ? Local missions too ? That's nonsense ... All ministry , biblically speaking, is to be an extension of the Body of Christ.

      Are you involved in a church ? You seem to diminish it's significance at times.
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    In at thread called Saved and then elected,or elected and then saved;

    Mailman says;
    This is wilful ignorance as it has been explained to him that fatalism is what is believed in islam, not in cal circles...

    Not one of these people offer any explanation, they just set aside truth.
     
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    I am glad I got banned from that heretical place.
     
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    This place is no different, it was initiated on heretical teachings, and it continues on said path. That some believe their own wisdom and words are more powerful than God's is no longer remarkable to contemplate. When God is reduced to a truncated learner, it is to be expected.
     
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    What is truth to one person is heretical to another.

    What are God's words to one are a false interpretation to another.

    I think this place is where our different views can be freely shared.
     
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    That is how you see it. I am on a few other forums and many are like this one.
    There are many who are self taught.There are many more who are untaught in the word .others have been taught falsehoods and build on a foundation of sand.
    In the words of an old sermon we have heard....are we going to light a candle or curse the darkness?
    Not everyone is a seminary trained person.
    I like the challenge and think we need to be firm but patient.
    You are not wrong in what you say many times, but I would ask what is your goal.
    Being right and taking a stand is good. DO you intend to help others get there....or fight and oppose them?
     
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    #17 Internet Theologian is a Verified MemberInternet Theologian, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:50 PM
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    Touchè?

    Probably an admixture of both like you and others practice as well. There is a line between helping others and contending for the faith. Whether or not one is seen as helping or opposing is often in the eyes of the beholder. Some offer their beliefs, then when called on it back pedal and excuse themselves making pretense they don't believe what they offer after rebuttal.

    On Bibleforums, help was offered, then it turned into opposing our doctrine, and opposing the heresies of others, lying, slander &c as you know full well. The same on another board, the same things go down the same road, from offering truth to opposition, lying, slander, infractions, name calling &c. Help and truth was offered, things presented were shown as false and sometimes as outright lies. The end result is banning instead of conceding to refutation.

    Now, as for here, there has been some initial disingenuous concerning one's position on theology, God, Scripture, so the field needs to be one where a person is being honest about their position.

    Concerning Squeaky I see you doing both; offering help, then opposing and fighting him as well, but I tend to agree with it. It happens elsewhere as well. Hopefully the same liberty can be granted to others. I suppose that is up to you.

    For the record a distinguishing of terms must be offered - you say "fight and oppose them". That's how you see it, but not how I view it. It is in opposing what the person teaches that is being contended and opposed, not the person as you imply. Be as consistent with me as you are with yourself and perhaps you will see the "them" offered by you is accusatory, emotional and unsupported. One could make the same claim upon you in your contentions, but I'm not going down that road.
     
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    Well said and I agree with you for the most part. We are similar in most ways. I count you as a brother and think I know what you desire. I think we have the same goal.
    I am thankful we can discuss openly these things and I know you can turn it around on me,lol...that would not be that hard to do: unamused:.
    I am seeking to be a kinder and gentler persono_O.
    I go on another site Where it is like what Joe would like this site to be.
    Christian Forums....it has catholics, Anglicans, episcopal, atheists etc.....it is a challenge.
    many are clearly unsaved persons, deluded souls.
    It really gets back to the basics sometimes. people deny the effects of the fall, like BB, people do not begin to know there is any decree, Covenants or anything else.
    I see it as an opportunity to reach the lost.
    Sometime to do that there is a need to plant some seed...let another brother water it, and watch God give the increase.
    For a time Sovereign grace, you and I teamed up and were effective doing that On BB...so much so that we were seen as a threat..same on bibleforums, they even got TC and Iconbusters... Your site and Puritanboard are more cut and dry....these sites have a different design.
     
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    No problem and I desire the same. Not trying to turn tables, just want to not have old grudges, thoughts, feelings, suspicions, attitudes, allegations &c carried over into a thread/conversation here. It serves no good purpose. That, and since this is ecumenical there will be more opposition to truth. Just look at the many false doctrines already being shared here. This site didn't start on a solid theological base, so it is to be expected. :)
     
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